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12-05-2006 | 09:34 AM
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Read the following and keep a copy in you car
BTW, you can always send a copy to the administrator of the FH2 SITE.
It’s easy to focus exclusively on gas mileage when making an environmentally conscious car choice. But there’s more to the story.
CNW Marketing Research Inc., an Oregon-based auto research spent two years collecting data on the energy necessary to plan, build, sell, drive and dispose of a vehicle from initial concept to scrappage. They call it a dust-to-dust analysis of the environmental impact of a car.
You may be surprised if you thought hybrids were the obvious winners.
The Honda Accord Hybrid has an Energy Cost per Mile of $3.29 while the conventional Honda Accord is $2.18. Put simply, over the “Dust to Dust” lifetime of the Accord Hybrid, it will require about 50 percent more energy than the non-hybrid version, CNW claims.
And you may do a doubletake after reading this:
For example, while the industry average of all vehicles sold in the U.S. in 2005 was $2.28 cents per mile, the Hummer H3 (among most SUVs) was only $1.949 cents per mile. That figure is also lower than all currently offered hybrids and Honda Civics at $2.42 per mile.
Basically, when considering all relevant variables such as materials, fabrication, plastics, carpets, chemicals, shipping, and transportation, gas mileage turns out to be significantly less relevant than many people assume.
What I like about this study – and of course it’s just one study – is that it looks at the total cost/impact of creation, ownership, and disposal. It’s easy for the media, the public, car dealers, and car manufactures to focus almost exclusively on miles per gallon. However, as is usually the case, reality points in a different direction than what’s convenient.
There’s nothing wrong with buying a hybrid to save on fuel costs, but maybe it’s time to put down the “I’m doing it for the environment” flag and put up the “I’m doing it to save money on gas” one. And there’s nothing wrong with that, of course.
Makes you feel good isn' it
BTW, you can always send a copy to the administrator of the FH2 SITE.
It’s easy to focus exclusively on gas mileage when making an environmentally conscious car choice. But there’s more to the story.
CNW Marketing Research Inc., an Oregon-based auto research spent two years collecting data on the energy necessary to plan, build, sell, drive and dispose of a vehicle from initial concept to scrappage. They call it a dust-to-dust analysis of the environmental impact of a car.
You may be surprised if you thought hybrids were the obvious winners.
The Honda Accord Hybrid has an Energy Cost per Mile of $3.29 while the conventional Honda Accord is $2.18. Put simply, over the “Dust to Dust” lifetime of the Accord Hybrid, it will require about 50 percent more energy than the non-hybrid version, CNW claims.
And you may do a doubletake after reading this:
For example, while the industry average of all vehicles sold in the U.S. in 2005 was $2.28 cents per mile, the Hummer H3 (among most SUVs) was only $1.949 cents per mile. That figure is also lower than all currently offered hybrids and Honda Civics at $2.42 per mile.
Basically, when considering all relevant variables such as materials, fabrication, plastics, carpets, chemicals, shipping, and transportation, gas mileage turns out to be significantly less relevant than many people assume.
What I like about this study – and of course it’s just one study – is that it looks at the total cost/impact of creation, ownership, and disposal. It’s easy for the media, the public, car dealers, and car manufactures to focus almost exclusively on miles per gallon. However, as is usually the case, reality points in a different direction than what’s convenient.
There’s nothing wrong with buying a hybrid to save on fuel costs, but maybe it’s time to put down the “I’m doing it for the environment” flag and put up the “I’m doing it to save money on gas” one. And there’s nothing wrong with that, of course.
Makes you feel good isn' it
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12-05-2006 | 10:19 AM
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I would like to get a copy of that report.
My dealer called me yesterday and told me that my H3 had arrived and I should come in today around 5pm to pick it up (psyched!). When I mentioned to a colleague that my new car had arrived, she asked me what I had purchased. I said: A Hummer, H3. Her response: "why would you want such a gas guzzler." I had two options - punch her in the face or just walk away; I chose the latter of the two.
My dealer called me yesterday and told me that my H3 had arrived and I should come in today around 5pm to pick it up (psyched!). When I mentioned to a colleague that my new car had arrived, she asked me what I had purchased. I said: A Hummer, H3. Her response: "why would you want such a gas guzzler." I had two options - punch her in the face or just walk away; I chose the latter of the two.
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12-05-2006 | 11:13 AM
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How cool is that!!! I have always had my doubts about those hybrids. You are paying to charge the batteries when you plug the damn things up at night. So they set out in the garage at night sucking up electricity so you can get 50MPG when you drive it. According to the story, the hybrid is not such a BFD anyway. LOL!!!
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12-05-2006 | 08:52 PM
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RE: read and enjoy
There’s nothing wrong with buying a hybrid to save on fuel costs, but maybe it’s time to put down the “I’m doing it for the environment” flag and put up the “I’m doing it to save money on gas” one. And there’s nothing wrong with that, of course.
I like that part.
I like that part.
#5
12-05-2006 | 10:16 PM
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where did you find this? I would like to forward this article to my ecology professor...
she doesn't know I have the H3, and as you can imagine the global climate change came up and so did the global warming trends and burning of fossil fuels... and she said that we can help limit the damage to the environment by being smart and driving hybrids not hummers... I just started to laugh under my breath (and so did a couple of friends that know I have a hummer). Its a damn shame that I have to hide the fact that I drive a hummer from my professors.. [sm=rant.gif]
she doesn't know I have the H3, and as you can imagine the global climate change came up and so did the global warming trends and burning of fossil fuels... and she said that we can help limit the damage to the environment by being smart and driving hybrids not hummers... I just started to laugh under my breath (and so did a couple of friends that know I have a hummer). Its a damn shame that I have to hide the fact that I drive a hummer from my professors.. [sm=rant.gif]
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12-06-2006 | 02:55 PM
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RE: read and enjoy
ORIGINAL: CerberusSVT
where did you find this? I would like to forward this article to my ecology professor...
she doesn't know I have the H3, and as you can imagine the global climate change came up and so did the global warming trends and burning of fossil fuels... and she said that we can help limit the damage to the environment by being smart and driving hybrids not hummers... I just started to laugh under my breath (and so did a couple of friends that know I have a hummer). Its a damn shame that I have to hide the fact that I drive a hummer from my professors.. [sm=rant.gif]
where did you find this? I would like to forward this article to my ecology professor...
she doesn't know I have the H3, and as you can imagine the global climate change came up and so did the global warming trends and burning of fossil fuels... and she said that we can help limit the damage to the environment by being smart and driving hybrids not hummers... I just started to laugh under my breath (and so did a couple of friends that know I have a hummer). Its a damn shame that I have to hide the fact that I drive a hummer from my professors.. [sm=rant.gif]
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12-06-2006 | 03:27 PM
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more from the article responses
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006...es_of_hyb.html) :
Here was the studies expected lifetime driving distances and cost per mile:
Hummer H1: 379,000 miles—$3.505 / mile
Hummer H2: 197,000 miles—$3.027 / mile\
Hummer H3: 207,000 miles—$1.949 / mile
Escalade ESV : 234,000 miles—$3.197 / mile
Accord Hybrid: 117,000 miles—$3.295 / mile
Civic Hybrid: 113,000 miles—$3.238 / mile
Prius: 109,000 miles—$3.249 / mile
Here was the studies expected lifetime driving distances and cost per mile:
Hummer H1: 379,000 miles—$3.505 / mile
Hummer H2: 197,000 miles—$3.027 / mile\
Hummer H3: 207,000 miles—$1.949 / mile
Escalade ESV : 234,000 miles—$3.197 / mile
Accord Hybrid: 117,000 miles—$3.295 / mile
Civic Hybrid: 113,000 miles—$3.238 / mile
Prius: 109,000 miles—$3.249 / mile
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12-06-2006 | 05:46 PM
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RE: read and enjoy
ORIGINAL: ZYNE
You HAVE to hide it!? F*CK EM, give em some grief!!!
ORIGINAL: CerberusSVT
where did you find this? I would like to forward this article to my ecology professor...
she doesn't know I have the H3, and as you can imagine the global climate change came up and so did the global warming trends and burning of fossil fuels... and she said that we can help limit the damage to the environment by being smart and driving hybrids not hummers... I just started to laugh under my breath (and so did a couple of friends that know I have a hummer). Its a damn shame that I have to hide the fact that I drive a hummer from my professors.. [sm=rant.gif]
where did you find this? I would like to forward this article to my ecology professor...
she doesn't know I have the H3, and as you can imagine the global climate change came up and so did the global warming trends and burning of fossil fuels... and she said that we can help limit the damage to the environment by being smart and driving hybrids not hummers... I just started to laugh under my breath (and so did a couple of friends that know I have a hummer). Its a damn shame that I have to hide the fact that I drive a hummer from my professors.. [sm=rant.gif]
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