Press ONE for English?
#41
06-27-2007 | 04:26 AM
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RE: Press ONE for English?
To make a long story short, I disagree with both Nick and Dennis on the following points:
1/ The European Union has the largest economy in the world. The EU economy is expected to grow further over the next decade as more countries join the union - especially considering that the new States are usually poorer than the EU average, and hence the expected fast GDP growth will help achieve the dynamic of the united Europe.
So, to the contrary to what Dennis has said the EEC economy is significantly larger than the USA one.
Rank Country GDP (millions of USD) —
Gross world product 48,144,466 —
European Union 14,527,140 1
United States 13,244,550 2
Japan 4,367,459
2/ EURO was the best financial move EVER made by the EEC and no, Sweden would have not been 'ruined' if they had choosen to shift from the SK to the €.
Quiet the contrary actually!since Sweden import most of its mass consumers good from the EEC and pay in EURO.that alone cut about 0.5 to 0.8 % to the country growth.
plus Sweden has to buy oil in Dollars and cannot compensate the oil price increase with the weakness of the USD vs the €.
When they will shift from SK to €, in 2012, the cost for them is going to be tremendous.
As far as the language is concerned I believe that GERMAN and ENGLISH being already the main European languages will most probably become the official languages of the EEC in a few decades.
Last but not least I don't believe that neither governement nor language can REALLY unify Europe.The main 'cement' has to be European nationalism.
And that is going to take a looooong time.
1/ The European Union has the largest economy in the world. The EU economy is expected to grow further over the next decade as more countries join the union - especially considering that the new States are usually poorer than the EU average, and hence the expected fast GDP growth will help achieve the dynamic of the united Europe.
So, to the contrary to what Dennis has said the EEC economy is significantly larger than the USA one.
Rank Country GDP (millions of USD) —
Gross world product 48,144,466 —
European Union 14,527,140 1
United States 13,244,550 2
Japan 4,367,459
2/ EURO was the best financial move EVER made by the EEC and no, Sweden would have not been 'ruined' if they had choosen to shift from the SK to the €.
Quiet the contrary actually!since Sweden import most of its mass consumers good from the EEC and pay in EURO.that alone cut about 0.5 to 0.8 % to the country growth.
plus Sweden has to buy oil in Dollars and cannot compensate the oil price increase with the weakness of the USD vs the €.
When they will shift from SK to €, in 2012, the cost for them is going to be tremendous.
As far as the language is concerned I believe that GERMAN and ENGLISH being already the main European languages will most probably become the official languages of the EEC in a few decades.
Last but not least I don't believe that neither governement nor language can REALLY unify Europe.The main 'cement' has to be European nationalism.
And that is going to take a looooong time.
#42
06-27-2007 | 08:26 AM
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RE: Press ONE for English?
European Union 14,527,140 1
United States 13,244,550 2
I standtactfully corrected.....But this is basically splitting hairs..
United States 13,244,550 2
I standtactfully corrected.....But this is basically splitting hairs..
#43
06-27-2007 | 09:01 AM
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RE: Press ONE for English?
ORIGINAL: Dennis
European Union 14,527,140 1
United States 13,244,550 2
I standtactfully corrected.....But this is basically splitting hairs..
European Union 14,527,140 1
United States 13,244,550 2
I standtactfully corrected.....But this is basically splitting hairs..
#44
06-27-2007 | 09:03 AM
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RE: Press ONE for English?
OK. The three of you make me feel uneducated, stupid and ignorant. I just wanted to tell you thanks! [:@] Obviously working in the second largest lawfirm in the world for 9 years hasn't done a damn bit of good. I shall now go read a book about world economics. Thank you.
#45
06-27-2007 | 09:04 AM
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RE: Press ONE for English?
ORIGINAL: Jmm
To make a long story short, I disagree with both Nick and Dennis on the following points:
1/ The European Union has the largest economy in the world. The EU economy is expected to grow further over the next decade as more countries join the union - especially considering that the new States are usually poorer than the EU average, and hence the expected fast GDP growth will help achieve the dynamic of the united Europe.
So, to the contrary to what Dennis has said the EEC economy is significantly larger than the USA one.
Rank Country GDP (millions of USD) —
Gross world product 48,144,466 —
European Union 14,527,140 1
United States 13,244,550 2
Japan 4,367,459
2/ EURO was the best financial move EVER made by the EEC and no, Sweden would have not been 'ruined' if they had choosen to shift from the SK to the €.
Quiet the contrary actually!since Sweden import most of its mass consumers good from the EEC and pay in EURO.that alone cut about 0.5 to 0.8 % to the country growth.
plus Sweden has to buy oil in Dollars and cannot compensate the oil price increase with the weakness of the USD vs the €.
When they will shift from SK to €, in 2012, the cost for them is going to be tremendous.
As far as the language is concerned I believe that GERMAN and ENGLISH being already the main European languages will most probably become the official languages of the EEC in a few decades.
Last but not least I don't believe that neither governement nor language can REALLY unify Europe.The main 'cement' has to be European nationalism.
And that is going to take a looooong time.
To make a long story short, I disagree with both Nick and Dennis on the following points:
1/ The European Union has the largest economy in the world. The EU economy is expected to grow further over the next decade as more countries join the union - especially considering that the new States are usually poorer than the EU average, and hence the expected fast GDP growth will help achieve the dynamic of the united Europe.
So, to the contrary to what Dennis has said the EEC economy is significantly larger than the USA one.
Rank Country GDP (millions of USD) —
Gross world product 48,144,466 —
European Union 14,527,140 1
United States 13,244,550 2
Japan 4,367,459
2/ EURO was the best financial move EVER made by the EEC and no, Sweden would have not been 'ruined' if they had choosen to shift from the SK to the €.
Quiet the contrary actually!since Sweden import most of its mass consumers good from the EEC and pay in EURO.that alone cut about 0.5 to 0.8 % to the country growth.
plus Sweden has to buy oil in Dollars and cannot compensate the oil price increase with the weakness of the USD vs the €.
When they will shift from SK to €, in 2012, the cost for them is going to be tremendous.
As far as the language is concerned I believe that GERMAN and ENGLISH being already the main European languages will most probably become the official languages of the EEC in a few decades.
Last but not least I don't believe that neither governement nor language can REALLY unify Europe.The main 'cement' has to be European nationalism.
And that is going to take a looooong time.
As far as the european nationalism, that's a tough one. We as Swedes were stripped of that while I was still a kid. No longer allowed to sing the anthem at graduation. If you sported a Swedish flag on your jacket you were considered a racist. It was damn near considered wrong or ugly back in those days. Not sure if the climate has changed in the last 10 years or not ... but European nationalism is probably a catch phrase better left alone, just the thought of Germany and nationalism will make the hairs stand up on A LOT of people.
Personally I don't think the "United States of Europe" will ever be a reality ... it's way too diverse, and not just from a people perspective but politically and religiously as well.
#46
06-27-2007 | 09:54 AM
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RE: Press ONE for English?
ORIGINAL: ZYNE
It usually is when proven wrong with little margin hehehehee :P
ORIGINAL: Dennis
European Union 14,527,140 1
United States 13,244,550 2
I standtactfully corrected.....But this is basically splitting hairs..
European Union 14,527,140 1
United States 13,244,550 2
I standtactfully corrected.....But this is basically splitting hairs..
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