Just MY .02!
#21
04-24-2007, 01:20 AM
RE: Just MY .02!
First of all, I do not hate mexicans. (NOR do I hate anyone!)I lived in Mexico for 3 years - a great experience I will never forget. I also learned enough of the language to be able to go out in daily life and get things done, converse with a maid and our guards and others when necessary. I did this because I had to and IWANTED to! I also left Mexico with several very good friendships. Secondly, "Mexicans" are not the only people who speak Spanish. I believe my post was about the use of the English language - not "Mexicans."
I live in south Florida and everything is geared to us as English as a second language. I am sick to death of not being able to go to my medical Dr's office and have a conversation because some of the staff do not speak English! I am sick to death of not being able to go into many a store and ask for help because they do not understand me since they do not speak English. I am sick to death of calling various businesses and companies and having to listen to a 5 minute recording in Spanishof which buttons to push BEFORE I get the English version of the recording. You askOK sowhy do I not just speak Spanish then? In case you weren't aware...we are a melting pot of many countries. Each country, as well as many different regions in those countries have different dialects. Should I learn all of these different dialects, as well as Portuguese, Creole, Patois, Farsi, and the other various languages spoken very widely here so that I can co-exist and get by in MY own country? I think NOT...Hence my post!
You say, If I don't like it - I should leave? Believe me, I intend to as soon as we can. We are not here by choice but by transfer due to my husbands profession. While I have never been to Canada, I doubt that you are quite as culturally diverse as we are and have to deal with this on a daily basis. Perhaps I am wrong and you do..if that's the case...you may continue to be tolerant of it and judgemental of we Americans for our attitudes about this subject. I choose to let it **** me off and that's my freedom of right! As for our ancestors who came to this country, you can by God believe they learned to speak English and with pride!
I live in south Florida and everything is geared to us as English as a second language. I am sick to death of not being able to go to my medical Dr's office and have a conversation because some of the staff do not speak English! I am sick to death of not being able to go into many a store and ask for help because they do not understand me since they do not speak English. I am sick to death of calling various businesses and companies and having to listen to a 5 minute recording in Spanishof which buttons to push BEFORE I get the English version of the recording. You askOK sowhy do I not just speak Spanish then? In case you weren't aware...we are a melting pot of many countries. Each country, as well as many different regions in those countries have different dialects. Should I learn all of these different dialects, as well as Portuguese, Creole, Patois, Farsi, and the other various languages spoken very widely here so that I can co-exist and get by in MY own country? I think NOT...Hence my post!
You say, If I don't like it - I should leave? Believe me, I intend to as soon as we can. We are not here by choice but by transfer due to my husbands profession. While I have never been to Canada, I doubt that you are quite as culturally diverse as we are and have to deal with this on a daily basis. Perhaps I am wrong and you do..if that's the case...you may continue to be tolerant of it and judgemental of we Americans for our attitudes about this subject. I choose to let it **** me off and that's my freedom of right! As for our ancestors who came to this country, you can by God believe they learned to speak English and with pride!
#22
04-24-2007, 01:56 AM
RE: Just MY .02!
ORIGINAL: LawWyfe
First of all, I do not hate mexicans. (NOR do I hate anyone!)I lived in Mexico for 3 years - a great experience I will never forget. I also learned enough of the language to be able to go out in daily life and get things done, converse with a maid and our guards and others when necessary. I did this because I had to and IWANTED to! I also left Mexico with several very good friendships. Secondly, "Mexicans" are not the only people who speak Spanish. I believe my post was about the use of the English language - not "Mexicans."
I live in south Florida and everything is geared to us as English as a second language. I am sick to death of not being able to go to my medical Dr's office and have a conversation because some of the staff do not speak English! I am sick to death of not being able to go into many a store and ask for help because they do not understand me since they do not speak English. I am sick to death of calling various businesses and companies and having to listen to a 5 minute recording in Spanishof which buttons to push BEFORE I get the English version of the recording. You askOK sowhy do I not just speak Spanish then? In case you weren't aware...we are a melting pot of many countries. Each country, as well as many different regions in those countries have different dialects. Should I learn all of these different dialects, as well as Portuguese, Creole, Patois, Farsi, and the other various languages spoken very widely here so that I can co-exist and get by in MY own country? I think NOT...Hence my post!
You say, If I don't like it - I should leave? Believe me, I intend to as soon as we can. We are not here by choice but by transfer due to my husbands profession. While I have never been to Canada, I doubt that you are quite as culturally diverse as we are and have to deal with this on a daily basis. Perhaps I am wrong and you do..if that's the case...you may continue to be tolerant of it and judgemental of we Americans for our attitudes about this subject. I choose to let it **** me off and that's my freedom of right! As for our ancestors who came to this country, you can by God believe they learned to speak English and with pride!
First of all, I do not hate mexicans. (NOR do I hate anyone!)I lived in Mexico for 3 years - a great experience I will never forget. I also learned enough of the language to be able to go out in daily life and get things done, converse with a maid and our guards and others when necessary. I did this because I had to and IWANTED to! I also left Mexico with several very good friendships. Secondly, "Mexicans" are not the only people who speak Spanish. I believe my post was about the use of the English language - not "Mexicans."
I live in south Florida and everything is geared to us as English as a second language. I am sick to death of not being able to go to my medical Dr's office and have a conversation because some of the staff do not speak English! I am sick to death of not being able to go into many a store and ask for help because they do not understand me since they do not speak English. I am sick to death of calling various businesses and companies and having to listen to a 5 minute recording in Spanishof which buttons to push BEFORE I get the English version of the recording. You askOK sowhy do I not just speak Spanish then? In case you weren't aware...we are a melting pot of many countries. Each country, as well as many different regions in those countries have different dialects. Should I learn all of these different dialects, as well as Portuguese, Creole, Patois, Farsi, and the other various languages spoken very widely here so that I can co-exist and get by in MY own country? I think NOT...Hence my post!
You say, If I don't like it - I should leave? Believe me, I intend to as soon as we can. We are not here by choice but by transfer due to my husbands profession. While I have never been to Canada, I doubt that you are quite as culturally diverse as we are and have to deal with this on a daily basis. Perhaps I am wrong and you do..if that's the case...you may continue to be tolerant of it and judgemental of we Americans for our attitudes about this subject. I choose to let it **** me off and that's my freedom of right! As for our ancestors who came to this country, you can by God believe they learned to speak English and with pride!
I'm sure azz7772 meant no disrespect, but was commenting on an intrepretation he gleaned from a post. Certainly, this can also be an example of one of the weaknesses of Internet communication, as peoples attitudes or opinions can be taken out of context or not properly represented in a textual manner. Thank goodness for smileys!
#23
04-24-2007, 01:59 AM
RE: Just MY .02!
ORIGINAL: LawWyfe
First of all, I do not hate mexicans. (NOR do I hate anyone!)I lived in Mexico for 3 years - a great experience I will never forget. I also learned enough of the language to be able to go out in daily life and get things done, converse with a maid and our guards and others when necessary. I did this because I had to and IWANTED to! I also left Mexico with several very good friendships. Secondly, "Mexicans" are not the only people who speak Spanish. I believe my post was about the use of the English language - not "Mexicans."
I live in south Florida and everything is geared to us as English as a second language. I am sick to death of not being able to go to my medical Dr's office and have a conversation because some of the staff do not speak English! I am sick to death of not being able to go into many a store and ask for help because they do not understand me since they do not speak English. I am sick to death of calling various businesses and companies and having to listen to a 5 minute recording in Spanishof which buttons to push BEFORE I get the English version of the recording. You askOK sowhy do I not just speak Spanish then? In case you weren't aware...we are a melting pot of many countries. Each country, as well as many different regions in those countries have different dialects. Should I learn all of these different dialects, as well as Portuguese, Creole, Patois, Farsi, and the other various languages spoken very widely here so that I can co-exist and get by in MY own country? I think NOT...Hence my post!
You say, If I don't like it - I should leave? Believe me, I intend to as soon as we can. We are not here by choice but by transfer due to my husbands profession. While I have never been to Canada, I doubt that you are quite as culturally diverse as we are and have to deal with this on a daily basis. Perhaps I am wrong and you do..if that's the case...you may continue to be tolerant of it and judgemental of we Americans for our attitudes about this subject. I choose to let it **** me off and that's my freedom of right! As for our ancestors who came to this country, you can by God believe they learned to speak English and with pride!
First of all, I do not hate mexicans. (NOR do I hate anyone!)I lived in Mexico for 3 years - a great experience I will never forget. I also learned enough of the language to be able to go out in daily life and get things done, converse with a maid and our guards and others when necessary. I did this because I had to and IWANTED to! I also left Mexico with several very good friendships. Secondly, "Mexicans" are not the only people who speak Spanish. I believe my post was about the use of the English language - not "Mexicans."
I live in south Florida and everything is geared to us as English as a second language. I am sick to death of not being able to go to my medical Dr's office and have a conversation because some of the staff do not speak English! I am sick to death of not being able to go into many a store and ask for help because they do not understand me since they do not speak English. I am sick to death of calling various businesses and companies and having to listen to a 5 minute recording in Spanishof which buttons to push BEFORE I get the English version of the recording. You askOK sowhy do I not just speak Spanish then? In case you weren't aware...we are a melting pot of many countries. Each country, as well as many different regions in those countries have different dialects. Should I learn all of these different dialects, as well as Portuguese, Creole, Patois, Farsi, and the other various languages spoken very widely here so that I can co-exist and get by in MY own country? I think NOT...Hence my post!
You say, If I don't like it - I should leave? Believe me, I intend to as soon as we can. We are not here by choice but by transfer due to my husbands profession. While I have never been to Canada, I doubt that you are quite as culturally diverse as we are and have to deal with this on a daily basis. Perhaps I am wrong and you do..if that's the case...you may continue to be tolerant of it and judgemental of we Americans for our attitudes about this subject. I choose to let it **** me off and that's my freedom of right! As for our ancestors who came to this country, you can by God believe they learned to speak English and with pride!
I dislike most mexicans, and hate Americans that look at Canada like a state.
#24
04-24-2007, 05:59 AM
RE: Just MY .02!
folks i do not mean any disrespect....... i am just trying to anilyze how americans come up with their perticularly different veiws of things like this topic and i am just speaking how i have seen americans interpreted through the media and reading forums.I know it is probably like you said different pockets of population have different veiws about different things but when you live in a different country you only get to know what the media portrays so that is why i asked the questions i did ..............i am interested in reading a debate like this just to get the real feeling for what is happening and i thank you all for your input and to lighten the mood i will insert a joke that was just emailed to me 
There will only be 49 contestants in the Miss Black America Contest this year because no one wants to wear the sash that says IDAHO
i am just trying to anilyze how americans come up with their perticularly different veiws of things like this topic and i am just speaking how i have seen americans interpreted through the media and reading forums.I know it is probably like you said different pockets of population have different veiws about different things but when you live in a different country you only get to know what the media portrays so that is why i asked the questions i did ..............i am interested in reading a debate like this just to get the real feeling for what is happening and i thank you all for your input and to lighten the mood i will insert a joke that was just emailed to me There will only be 49 contestants in the Miss Black America Contest this year because no one wants to wear the sash that says IDAHO
#25
04-24-2007, 07:01 AM
RE: Just MY .02!
I can't believe I didn't read this post earlier.......I am SO SICK of ANY immigrant coming to Canada and expecting us to allow them their customs.....but NOT ALLOWING US OURS!!!! Hey man.....you moved HERE...so get with the FUKIN PROGRAM!!!![:@][:@][:@]
I think the thing that really got me is the Pakistanis(sp) or maybe East Indians(DON'T CARE...COULDN'T GIVE A ***) who came here and joined the RCMP(Royal Canadian Mounted Police) and fought IN COURT their right to wear a FUKIN TURBAN with the uniform!!!! WTF????
These are RCMP:
NOT THIS MOTHER *****:
I'm sorry for the RANT but this really pisses me off!!!!!! OUR COUNTRY....OUR TRADITIONS!!!!![:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@]
If you don't like it...........GO HOME!!!!!
I think the thing that really got me is the Pakistanis(sp) or maybe East Indians(DON'T CARE...COULDN'T GIVE A ***) who came here and joined the RCMP(Royal Canadian Mounted Police) and fought IN COURT their right to wear a FUKIN TURBAN with the uniform!!!! WTF????
These are RCMP:
NOT THIS MOTHER *****:
I'm sorry for the RANT but this really pisses me off!!!!!! OUR COUNTRY....OUR TRADITIONS!!!!![:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@]
If you don't like it...........GO HOME!!!!!
#26
04-24-2007, 10:14 AM
RE: Just MY .02!
ORIGINAL: littlehummerboy
Hey, how'd I get involved with this? Think you meant Darcy, Dennis! Karl agrees with you and Zyne. No animosity against peoples, language, or cultures, but if you move here, make an effort to adopt ours!
ORIGINAL: Dennis
Karl...I'm 1/4 Native American..For the record...But they aren't really Americans either by your terms regarding imigrants...they immigrated from Mongolia and Eastern Europe...Some zillion years ago...But who cares? The point is, this country was founded by English speaking people. Be that right or wrong the way it came about, but that's the way it is now...So I agree with ZYNE 200%...Learn the language and laws, or forget about living here and enjoying the benefits that comes with the American lifestyle. This includes Canada in my Book, because you folks are Americans too, like it or not...
Lastly, I don't think there is any hatred towards Mexicans or Spanish speaking people on a national level. Only small pockets of hate jerks that have this need for White superiority and racial separation and hatred, we call them the KKK.
I think the point is and it has been said quite eloquently by ZYNE and the others. No matter what your native tongue is. Learn English in order to live in our ENGLISH speaking society and don't expect special amends for your handicap...PERIOD that is all. My Great Grand father did..ZYNE did it, Importkiller's Grand parents did, it's only fair, no hatred, no dislike, just get with our program or live somewhere else. Say like Canada...
Reminding everyone this is a friendly intelectual discussion and has nothing personal leveled at anyone.
Karl...I'm 1/4 Native American..For the record...But they aren't really Americans either by your terms regarding imigrants...they immigrated from Mongolia and Eastern Europe...Some zillion years ago...But who cares? The point is, this country was founded by English speaking people. Be that right or wrong the way it came about, but that's the way it is now...So I agree with ZYNE 200%...Learn the language and laws, or forget about living here and enjoying the benefits that comes with the American lifestyle. This includes Canada in my Book, because you folks are Americans too, like it or not...
Lastly, I don't think there is any hatred towards Mexicans or Spanish speaking people on a national level. Only small pockets of hate jerks that have this need for White superiority and racial separation and hatred, we call them the KKK.
I think the point is and it has been said quite eloquently by ZYNE and the others. No matter what your native tongue is. Learn English in order to live in our ENGLISH speaking society and don't expect special amends for your handicap...PERIOD that is all. My Great Grand father did..ZYNE did it, Importkiller's Grand parents did, it's only fair, no hatred, no dislike, just get with our program or live somewhere else. Say like Canada...
Reminding everyone this is a friendly intelectual discussion and has nothing personal leveled at anyone.
#28
04-24-2007, 12:15 PM
RE: Just MY .02!
ORIGINAL: Dennis
Can you elaborate?..I'm curious at what this means...I want to fully understand before I comment..
ORIGINAL: Choco
I dislike most mexicans, and hate Americans that look at Canada like a state.
I dislike most mexicans, and hate Americans that look at Canada like a state.
#29
04-24-2007, 12:26 PM
RE: Just MY .02!
Okay..I see now..thanks for clarifing that...
Well maybe my comment as to WE are all AMERICANS was taken that way..What I meant was and I'm sure you understand, that WE Americans starts atCape Horn to the Artic, hence the "Americas"..That's all I was saying.
PS..Canadian beer still sucks and you can lay claim to that for sure
Well maybe my comment as to WE are all AMERICANS was taken that way..What I meant was and I'm sure you understand, that WE Americans starts atCape Horn to the Artic, hence the "Americas"..That's all I was saying.
PS..Canadian beer still sucks and you can lay claim to that for sure
#30
04-24-2007, 12:32 PM
RE: Just MY .02!
ORIGINAL: Dennis
PS..Canadian beer still sucks and you can lay claim to that for sure
PS..Canadian beer still sucks and you can lay claim to that for sure