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Old 03-21-2011 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RenegadeMicro
Is there any cutting of the black plastic housing involved? I looked at the pictures but I couldn't tell. Also, I hate to sound like an idiot but could you go into greater detail with the instructions?
Depends which type of projectors you go with. If you go with the Morimoto's like hoken has pictured, no. If you go with the larger and better performing FX-R's, yes. I've contacted Matt @ TRS and received his recommendations for this install.
According to Matt, if you go with the Morimoto's it's easier to install than the FX-R's but only get 90% of the performance compared to the FX-R's. You don't have to cut the **** out of your assembly to get the Morimoto's to fit so I'm leaning towards the easier route
 

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Old 03-22-2011 | 04:12 AM
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No cutting on the morimoto h1. I thought i would have to cut and use steel epoxy. I have had the FX-R on my 09 Ford Ranger and the performance compared to each is not reconiseble.

Heres a pics of FX-R with same shrouds (E46-R extended)
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Heres the sub i made for the same car
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Old 03-22-2011 | 04:13 AM
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Old 03-22-2011 | 04:21 AM
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I could try to help you guys step by step.
First take out the headlamps(thats ok?)
You have to either use a warm pistol or take the headlamp into the oven to activate the glue between the glass and the refletor.
thats the hardest part!!
When you have done that. make a check with the orginal light up on a wall or just adjust the lens when the lamps are on the car.
Theres one torx screw(15 i think) inside the reflector.
Take the morimoto h1 and loose the 3 screws and spin the ring out.
take the projector inside the H3lamp and spin on the ring again. use your hand to screw the ring to the lamp(hard to explain) use tools to draw it even more.
3 screws back on(new bulb holder) then put on the shrouds(i use the e46-r)
warm the glass back on the reflector(i had to use some extra Sika("glue").

then you are done. Just ask il try to help!
 
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Old 04-27-2011 | 12:10 PM
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Since I have the propensity to screw up even the easiest of mods, my wife HIGHLY recommended that I not try the lights myself. With that in mind and some cash from the sale of performance/racing parts off my MINI I bought the STARR system. The install went well and was pretty straight forward.

After using the system during a really bad rain storm in the middle of the night on back roads I am blown away. I have HIDs on both of our MINIs and the Starr system kicks their butt. Hands down worth what I paid... and my wife can't complain.
 
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Old 04-27-2011 | 05:19 PM
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I almost went with the Starr's but after seeing the difference between friends that had the Starr's (H3) and Morimoto's (Ford F150)... I went with the Morimoto's. They had a sharper cut off, and more color on the cut off line. I'm glad that you got the lights that you wanted and the install was easy. But the most important part is that the wife is happy
 
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Old 04-27-2011 | 05:34 PM
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Now if we can find a way to convert the fog lights to projectors too I'll be beyond happy and would actually do both in a heartbeat!

I'm pretty **** about symmetry and having Projector HID's in the headlights and halogen in the fogs would drive me to drink.....
 
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Old 04-27-2011 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by airborne227
I almost went with the Starr's but after seeing the difference between friends that had the Starr's (H3) and Morimoto's (Ford F150)... I went with the Morimoto's. They had a sharper cut off, and more color on the cut off line. I'm glad that you got the lights that you wanted and the install was easy. But the most important part is that the wife is happy
A sharper cut off from the shield is no indication of better light output
and more visible color on the cut off line (blueish) is literally the shorter light wave lengths being bent around the shield.
Matt from The Retrofit Source, that sells the Morimoto's, states his HID lights are not legal in the US. You may already know that by now.
 

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Old 04-27-2011 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Draketh

I'm pretty **** about symmetry and having Projector HID's in the headlights and halogen in the fogs would drive me to drink.....
I agree 110%! I can't stand the looks of expensive domestic and import vehicles with HID headlamps, and halogen fogs. It's an uncomplimentary mix of bright white, and yellow lighting. What were the lighting engineers thinking? (besides cost savings!)
 
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Old 04-27-2011 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by wfturner
A sharper cut off from the shield is no indication of better light output
and more visible color on the cut off line (blueish) is literally the shorter light wave lengths being bent around the shield.
Matt from The Retrofit Source, that sells the Morimoto's, states his HID lights are not legal in the US. You may already know that by now.
The sharper cutoff does make better light output, and it does ensure that it's not in the on-coming traffics eyes. The color mod is done to intensify the pretty color seen along the step line and maximize the clarity of the projector's output. A curved cutoff shield ALWAYS produces a wider & sharper output than a flat shield (like used in the STARR's). Starr's also use a fresnel or ribbed lens that diffuses light output for better foreground and bad-weather lighting. What this means for you is less than stellar light output & a non-crisp cutoff line. Which isn't a bad thing!

Actually, the projectors are legal here in Louisiana (and other states too, you just have to check local laws) since the HID is in a projector, not HID using halogen fixture. I just had to go through an inspection for a new sticker...that was the reason I never bought a kit from PilotHID. I would have never passed.
 



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