Fuel mileage help with add-ons?
#11
Finally!
someone who makes sense.
but,,no,,no we aint tradin !!
hard tires and a soft foot=free mileage
oh, on tires; i now have 285,had 265
if i get less mpg going from 265 to 285, would i beat 265 mileage with 255 or 245??
even if i went back to 265 it costs me?$600?
lots of gas,cant win
but,,no,,no we aint tradin !!
hard tires and a soft foot=free mileage
oh, on tires; i now have 285,had 265
if i get less mpg going from 265 to 285, would i beat 265 mileage with 255 or 245??
even if i went back to 265 it costs me?$600?
lots of gas,cant win
Last edited by drtom; 04-18-2011 at 11:35 AM.
#13
actually im dead serious. i wonder if 265,(20mpg), is the magic sweet spot for the h3 or , since 285 reduces mpg,might 255 increase it.we only see the results of bigger tires and its negative for mpg.smaller might be better. but i would not want my old pinto 185 75 14,,,no not really xxx xxxx!
#16
YEAH but the reverse dont work,,,go up to285 run lower rpm ,sounds logical,,,but it dont work!!! sorry
actually smaller,more power,ezer to push.it balances out at some point.
weight,the brick shape,tire air pressure.
one thing we know,265 beats 285. so its 255?,or,275?
best guess IS 265,what gm put on to start,huh?
actually smaller,more power,ezer to push.it balances out at some point.
weight,the brick shape,tire air pressure.
one thing we know,265 beats 285. so its 255?,or,275?
best guess IS 265,what gm put on to start,huh?
Last edited by drtom; 04-20-2011 at 07:37 AM.
#17
Aside from the vortex thing, I've heard the little magnets you put on the fuel line work great too. I think Doc Olds recommends those highly . Other than the new intake, exhaust and pcm tune, I think the e-fan is the way to go. Probably my next and last mod (I think anyway) but that'll probably be an end of summer thing. Of course along with these mods I'm adding weight with bigger tires and a BG so if anything if I'm lucky if the MPG mods will offset my other add ons.
Ben
Ben
#18
YEAH but the reverse dont work,,,go up to285 run lower rpm ,sounds logical,,,but it dont work!!! sorry
actually smaller,more power,ezer to push.it balances out at some point.
weight,the brick shape,tire air pressure.
one thing we know,265 beats 285. so its 255?,or,275?
best guess IS 265,what gm put on to start,huh?
actually smaller,more power,ezer to push.it balances out at some point.
weight,the brick shape,tire air pressure.
one thing we know,265 beats 285. so its 255?,or,275?
best guess IS 265,what gm put on to start,huh?
Yall are getting the width of the tire (e.g. 285, 265, etc) confused with the overall diameter of the tire. A 285/75R16 will be about the same overall diameter of a 265/75R16. The 265 would theoretically get better gas mileage because it is more narrow and has a smaller contact patch on the road (less friction). At some point you could get too narrow and adversely affect handling and braking performance.
A 285/70R16 will be a smaller overall diameter than the 285/75R16.
#19
lots of tires,lots of charts.
285, apx 33 in
265, apx 31.5
255 if u find comparable, apx30
so bigger numbers in same group,bigger than smaller numbers,,,
im just curious what the fine tune spot is,not that im gonna spend 800 to find out
285, apx 33 in
265, apx 31.5
255 if u find comparable, apx30
so bigger numbers in same group,bigger than smaller numbers,,,
im just curious what the fine tune spot is,not that im gonna spend 800 to find out
#20
CAI's help on engines that dont use a throttle plate, like some diesel engines, however.....
Reducing the restriction (and thus the vacuum pulled) between the air filter and the throttle plate will not help your mpg, simply for the fact that this does nothing to reduce the restriction/vacuum between the throttle plate and the rest of the intake. CAI's will only help when the throttle plate is significantly open (close to full throttle) such that the entire intake tract will see the benefit of reduced restriction, which reduces the work required by the engine and also increases flow.
At partial throttle like highway driving the actual vacuum that then engine sees (between the throttle plate and the combustion chamber is not changed by any CAI or high flow air filter, and therefore no mpg benefit is realized.
Reducing the restriction (and thus the vacuum pulled) between the air filter and the throttle plate will not help your mpg, simply for the fact that this does nothing to reduce the restriction/vacuum between the throttle plate and the rest of the intake. CAI's will only help when the throttle plate is significantly open (close to full throttle) such that the entire intake tract will see the benefit of reduced restriction, which reduces the work required by the engine and also increases flow.
At partial throttle like highway driving the actual vacuum that then engine sees (between the throttle plate and the combustion chamber is not changed by any CAI or high flow air filter, and therefore no mpg benefit is realized.
This is why a Dyno can measure an increase in HP and TQ when a performance intake is added without any other change. Some vehicles respond fantasically to the addition to an intake, others to a lesser extent.
If you add an intake, PCM tune, and Efan conversion your MPG will go up with every addition without any other changes. How much depends upon how you drive. In all the late model trucks we have tested, I cannot say that you can measure anything by adding a Cat Back Exhaust but tuned sound. The old adage: more air in, more air out cannot hurt anything and does have some truth about it.
BTW, performance modding for 99% of people is not about a cost analysis of how long a certain mod will take to pay for itself in fuel savings, it is about making your truck, "your truck", increasing performance and at the same time, maybe picking up some extra miles every tank of fuel.