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Old 05-18-2021, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by hummerz
Measuring the frame ride height, on ALL 4 corners, leads to the issue. Just get a tape measure, and measure at the noted points!

OK, OK, I will measure that tomorrow and report back.
 
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Old 05-19-2021, 08:06 AM
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Z Height = 4-13/16"



 
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Old 05-21-2021, 10:45 PM
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Well, the D-height measured 5-3/16" on both sides, which does not explain the vehicle height difference of 1/2" from RL to RR as I previously outlined.
Replacing the airbags has also not made any difference.

So that D-height measurement appears to not be related in this case.

Wondering if H2 are assembled in such a way as to have some tolerance (variance) like this when wheelwell skirts are attached, etc.
Maybe this is normal?
 
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Old 05-22-2021, 07:06 AM
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Check body mount bushings.


 
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Old 05-22-2021, 11:37 AM
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Good guess. Thanks for your ideas.

But unless bushings were all wrong from day-1, that would not be an issue?
I guess it is possible (unlikely) left side was tightened down more than right side? No way to tell.

On a separate note, I did look at replacing these rusty bushing assemblies with new ones few years ago. The OEM cost was over $1000 for parts and about $1000 labor.
Any ideas of aftermarket suppliers for these? Could not find anyone doing urethane or high quality body bushings.
The whole vehicle is getting creaky. I should really be changing out ALL suspension bushings too. Again, could not find someone who could supply ALL bushings. Guys on the net selling this and that, but no complete sets.Again, red urethane would be nice.
 

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Old 05-22-2021, 12:54 PM
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Btw, Z-Height 4-13/16"? Did you measure from fender lip up on both rears?
Check this thread: body mounts
 
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Old 05-22-2021, 01:21 PM
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I did NOT measure Z-height. Not sure what the point is in doing that? Since the vehicle is level on 3 corners.
(And no accurate way to measure that Z-height from that diagram. You would have to try to use a short bubble level or something, and that is not very accurate.)

The vehicle is the same height (42.0") measured along wheel center line to fender lip, at all 3 corners. Except 1/2" lower (41.5") on only the RL corner.

BTW: much thanks for the link to the body mounts. I will work on that project now.
 

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Measure from ground up to 3&5 and subtract to get 4(Z). If they match, then measure the distance at the rear body mount bushings. Trim height is what you want matching(alignment). Other than that, you could have collapsed body mount bushings or worst case scenario bent frame.
 
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Old 05-22-2021, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by hummerz
Measure from ground up to 3&5 and subtract to get 4(Z). If they match, then measure the distance at the rear body mount bushings. Trim height is what you want matching(alignment). Other than that, you could have collapsed body mount bushings or worst case scenario bent frame.
Good advice. Thanks. I will look at that this weekend and come back here.

I priced out OEM body bushing set today via local dealer, all 12, and it comes to $1840 CAD (about $1500USD). Nuts!

Would be great if someone sold an OEM kit, but all I see is the Dorman.

Do you know how to free up the Upper bushings? How do you unload the weight of the body on one bushing to pull it out? Do you have to loosen all of them first?
 

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you have to loosen all the body bolts on the side you are working on and lift the body off the frame with wood and a jack being carful not to smash the floor pans in place wood and jack in structural chassis areas
 


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