Anyone with over 50k + miles @ no valve problems
#11
11-20-2006, 05:32 PM
RE: Anyone with over 50k + miles @ no valve problems
ORIGINAL: cnynctry
We are looking at a some bad parts that got into the production line. Heads with soft valve guides. What we need to know is what VINs and build dates are affected. Miles is only a nice to know thing and may have no bearing on if a problem may surface.
Percentages are only percentages. You can't tell from a small sampling of forum members what is actually hapening. The only ones that do know are GM, and they arnt saying yet.
I can bet that they have traced down the supplier and know very close where the affected trucks fall in the production line. I sure want to know.
We are looking at a some bad parts that got into the production line. Heads with soft valve guides. What we need to know is what VINs and build dates are affected. Miles is only a nice to know thing and may have no bearing on if a problem may surface.
Percentages are only percentages. You can't tell from a small sampling of forum members what is actually hapening. The only ones that do know are GM, and they arnt saying yet.
I can bet that they have traced down the supplier and know very close where the affected trucks fall in the production line. I sure want to know.
I would like to add on this cylinder head issue. I am a shop forman at a Cadillac Hummer dealer and we have ony replaced the head on 2 trucks so far. We have sold a lot of 06 H3's with only 2 being effected so far. The PI lists trucks with a vin number before 68287591 (last eight of vin) might be effected. I hope this helps a little on this subject. Steve
#12
11-20-2006, 06:17 PM
RE: Anyone with over 50k + miles @ no valve problems
ORIGINAL: importkiller
and you are specualting that the tens of thousands of h3 owners that ARE NOT on internet forums are having no problems with theirs. Who's to say that there aren't 25,000 h3's rolling around out there that ARE having problems? You can't, and neither can I.
and you are specualting that the tens of thousands of h3 owners that ARE NOT on internet forums are having no problems with theirs. Who's to say that there aren't 25,000 h3's rolling around out there that ARE having problems? You can't, and neither can I.
#13
11-20-2006, 06:49 PM
RE: Anyone with over 50k + miles @ no valve problems
actually I'm guessing you don't read the forum all that much, because as stated by a hummer tech there has been a PI issued from GM stating that all h3's with the last 8 of the vin before 68287591 could be affected....still think GM would put out such a PI for something that is "rare"? Now a PI from GM with a specific VIN number run IS EVIDENCE that this has/will effect many h3's on the road today....check your VIN...Bet your one of the ones that may run into problems.
#14
11-20-2006, 08:37 PM
RE: Anyone with over 50k + miles @ no valve problems
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ORIGINAL: importkiller
actually I'm guessing you don't read the forum all that much, because as stated by a hummer tech there has been a PI issued from GM stating that all h3's with the last 8 of the vin before 68287591 could be affected....still think GM would put out such a PI for something that is "rare"? Now a PI from GM with a specific VIN number run IS EVIDENCE that this has/will effect many h3's on the road today....check your VIN...Bet your one of the ones that may run into problems.
actually I'm guessing you don't read the forum all that much, because as stated by a hummer tech there has been a PI issued from GM stating that all h3's with the last 8 of the vin before 68287591 could be affected....still think GM would put out such a PI for something that is "rare"? Now a PI from GM with a specific VIN number run IS EVIDENCE that this has/will effect many h3's on the road today....check your VIN...Bet your one of the ones that may run into problems.
Don't get me wrong, I niether defending GM or downplaying the problem for those affected. If I do have cylinder head problems I will be pissed. But you and others seem to be making a case that GM is doing something devious or stonewalling, and I see little basis for that.
#15
11-20-2006, 09:08 PM
RE: Anyone with over 50k + miles @ no valve problems
ORIGINAL: SedonaBoundH3
But you and others seem to be making a case that GM is doing something devious or stonewalling, and I see little basis for that.
But you and others seem to be making a case that GM is doing something devious or stonewalling, and I see little basis for that.
Now yes, its easy for us who have not had a problem to say things like this but again, the meaning of a warranty is not that it will never ever break. It means that if it does, it will be fixed and to me thats what it looks like GM is doing.
#16
11-20-2006, 09:32 PM
RE: Anyone with over 50k + miles @ no valve problems
About the VIN, I checked mine and I fall in the group but I did some investigating and only the last 6 digits are the serial number.
The code: 68287591
The first digit (6) means its a 2006 and the second digit (8) means assembly plant #8 which is the Shreveport, LA plant.
so the S/N's affected is 287591 but the first vehicle off the line is S/N 100001 so 187,591 H3's could possibly be effected.
The code: 68287591
The first digit (6) means its a 2006 and the second digit (8) means assembly plant #8 which is the Shreveport, LA plant.
so the S/N's affected is 287591 but the first vehicle off the line is S/N 100001 so 187,591 H3's could possibly be effected.
#17
11-20-2006, 09:35 PM
RE: Anyone with over 50k + miles @ no valve problems
ORIGINAL: Ghostrider
About the VIN, I checked mine and I fall in the group but I did some investigating and only the last 6 digits are the serial number.
The code: 68287591
The first digit (6) means its a 2006 and the second digit (8) means assembly plant #8 which is the Shreveport, LA plant.
so the S/N's affected is 287591 but the first vehicle off the line is S/N 100001 so 187,591 H3's could possibly be effected.
About the VIN, I checked mine and I fall in the group but I did some investigating and only the last 6 digits are the serial number.
The code: 68287591
The first digit (6) means its a 2006 and the second digit (8) means assembly plant #8 which is the Shreveport, LA plant.
so the S/N's affected is 287591 but the first vehicle off the line is S/N 100001 so 187,591 H3's could possibly be effected.
#18
11-20-2006, 11:55 PM
RE: Anyone with over 50k + miles @ no valve problems
ORIGINAL: SedonaBoundH3
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GM absolutely would put out an order; to go on the record with monitoring and corrective action as a defense against potential class action suits for problems not acted on. If the problem had a significant occurance probability, owners of all potentially affected vehicles would be notified to take it to the dealer for inspection, if not to schedule head replacement. After the BMW paint case, car makers know better than to play games on warranty issues. Too many lawyers ready to pounce. Trolling for victims to enroll in class actions is also pretty common on auto forums. Not even GM is that dumb (I hope). I don't know what "the last 8 of the VIN" means; eight digits covers 100 million VINs.
Don't get me wrong, I niether defending GM or downplaying the problem for those affected. If I do have cylinder head problems I will be pissed. But you and others seem to be making a case that GM is doing something devious or stonewalling, and I see little basis for that.
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ORIGINAL: importkiller
actually I'm guessing you don't read the forum all that much, because as stated by a hummer tech there has been a PI issued from GM stating that all h3's with the last 8 of the vin before 68287591 could be affected....still think GM would put out such a PI for something that is "rare"? Now a PI from GM with a specific VIN number run IS EVIDENCE that this has/will effect many h3's on the road today....check your VIN...Bet your one of the ones that may run into problems.
actually I'm guessing you don't read the forum all that much, because as stated by a hummer tech there has been a PI issued from GM stating that all h3's with the last 8 of the vin before 68287591 could be affected....still think GM would put out such a PI for something that is "rare"? Now a PI from GM with a specific VIN number run IS EVIDENCE that this has/will effect many h3's on the road today....check your VIN...Bet your one of the ones that may run into problems.
Don't get me wrong, I niether defending GM or downplaying the problem for those affected. If I do have cylinder head problems I will be pissed. But you and others seem to be making a case that GM is doing something devious or stonewalling, and I see little basis for that.
I have never said anything to the effect that I feel GM is doing something devious...I think you have me confused with someone else. I actually posted the exact opposite thing in other threads, I feel GM found their error and has made the proper corrections in making harder valve guide castings. Some have made the whole gm conspiracy theory...I am not one of them.
#19
11-21-2006, 02:35 PM
RE: Anyone with over 50k + miles @ no valve problems
ORIGINAL: importkiller
I have never said anything to the effect that I feel GM is doing something devious...I think you have me confused with someone else. I actually posted the exact opposite thing in other threads, I feel GM found their error and has made the proper corrections in making harder valve guide castings. Some have made the whole gm conspiracy theory...I am not one of them.
I have never said anything to the effect that I feel GM is doing something devious...I think you have me confused with someone else. I actually posted the exact opposite thing in other threads, I feel GM found their error and has made the proper corrections in making harder valve guide castings. Some have made the whole gm conspiracy theory...I am not one of them.
#20
11-21-2006, 04:26 PM
RE: Anyone with over 50k + miles @ no valve problems
does anyone know how many of I5 vortec engines has been produced 200,000. 300,000.. more??. since 2004. They are in use in the COLORADO and in the CANYON and... in the H3
I don't believe for a second that there is a flaw in the design of this engine.
the problem might have an external reason... let's try to find out the common factor linking together all the forum members having the problem.